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Diane Keaton: Fat Lips & F-Bomb

Tue, 01/15/2008 - 13:01
Submitted by Carlin Ross

I caught this clip on the Huffingtonpost.com. Diane Keaton talking about her thin lips and if she had lips like Diane Sawyer she'd be married so made me think of Betty. She's always talking about her thin lips.

And then I started to wonder whether there was any merit to the belief that fat lips = perception of sensuality and whether women should even care. I mean if we're all feminists and don't want to follow social convention then why the fuck do we care if we have marriage appropriate lips?

But are they just being completely honest about their life experience? Angelina Jolie is considered the sexiest woman alive and it's all about her lips. Can we be honest about the game of life and still be feminists?

Any thoughts?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/15/diane-keaton-drops-fbomb_n_81592.html

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Tue, 01/15/2008 - 17:18
Don Juan

I can certainly understand the appeal of full lips, they are my second favorite womanly feature, only after a nice ass.......

Lips make all the difference in oral............{shutters}

In regards to your point, being conscious about body parts and their perception imposed by society, sensitivity to them just means you are human not that you are against the empowering of women rights and issues.

Tue, 01/15/2008 - 17:42
avid

c-bitch-You bring up an important point about what parts of our sexual politics are innate and what parts are heaped on us from good ole' fashion social conditioning. I think its that pesky little hidden ovulation in humans that causes all of the problems. Other species know when the female is in heat and its time for the fucking to start. With us, all of the signals become subtle and displaced. An iris expanding. A flushed neck. A change in gait. Add that to a brain that is too conscious for its own good, and what is an instinctual act in other species becomes a big ball of confusion for us.

For me feminism is about equity for both genders, finally accepting and appreciating the inherent differences between men and women, and to stop trying to win the "battle of the sexes" for dominance in the culture.

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Wed, 01/16/2008 - 09:21
Betterthenyouknew

I wish to state at the start of this post, It is not meant in a derogitory sense towards women, it is meant as an observation of HUMAN behavior as we have evolved.

Avid,

You raise an interesting point about the other species knowing when it is time to fuck. However, I can't help but thinking that, humans show similar signs as well. As in all animal species, the males are, well, always ready, that's genetic; and we just wait for the female to signal ovulation so we know it's time. Now, Women, do often feel that the time is right (or so I've been told - that they know they are ovulating), and their body does signal it to us.

There are just a few problems though.

First of all, some of the ovulation symptoms annoy the women who are having them, so they try to hide them.

Secondly, we are one of only 2 or 3 (porcipines, and dolphins are 2 more that I know of)species on earth that copulates NOT for the sole purpose of procreation.

and Third, Because our species has sex for FUN, women have learned to mask the symptoms of increased sexuality, and also to flont them when needed, weather it is the right time of the month or not.

A.

Wed, 01/16/2008 - 13:19
cuntlicker

Most of the things that women complain men are "conditioned" to find attractive aren't social conditioning at all, it's just instinct. Smooth skin, wide hips/good wasit-hip ratio, full breasts, it's all about indicators of health and a good physical predisposition for motherhood. There are some things, like full lips, that have little or nothing to do with it, but in the case of full lips it comes down to pleasure. I would rather kiss a girl with nice full lips than with skinny ones. It just feels a lot more sensual.

Thu, 01/17/2008 - 01:06
kayten

I am part of the thin-lipped population, and I never experienced any self-consciousness about it so I never felt deficient. In fact, growing up with the Fat Albert cartoon, I always saw full lips as more of an impediment than something to be envied. I have only ever had rave reviews on my BJ technique and no complaints with my kissing. I guess I figure it comes down to attitude, desire to please and creativity more than just looks. My thin lips with everything behind them deliver far more than a full-lipped woman who doesn't know or doesn't care what she's doing.

Then again, maybe there's something new to blame for my complete failure at relationships. Who knows.

Thu, 01/17/2008 - 04:25
cuntlicker

kayten;11272 wrote:
I guess I figure it comes down to attitude, desire to please and creativity more than just looks.

Absolutely. I think full lips are a bonus, but they're not going to make or break the deal. I'd rather have a girl with no tits or ass and thin lips but with a good attitude than a girl with a great body but a personality I can't stand.

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Thu, 01/17/2008 - 12:54
Betterthenyouknew

As most often is the case, I agree with CL on this.

And Kayten, I'm absolutely sure that if your relationships in the past haven't worked due to you having thin lips, than you are much better off without those men.

Honestly, I don't know what the hubbub is about fat or thin lips. I was always happy with a woman who could kiss me well, regardless of her lip size... jeesh.

A.