Posing Nude : Not Drawing = Not Seeing?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 13:03
Submitted by nanha

So, as the post became a bit long I will put my question first:
Why do artists in nude drawing classes follow the principle of trying to draw what they see (proportions, position etc) but abandon this principle when faced with the genital area?
Is it cultural? Don't they look there? Or do they just not draw it? What do you think?

I tend to think it's the second one, because when I was participating in a class, I was very interested how the models looked.

The longer story: Yesterday, I posed nude for the first time and it was an amazing experience. I felt very comfortable and I wasn't even nervous. - Who would have thought ..
Anyways, this thread is about something Betty already mentioned.
In nude-drawing class the objective as I understand is to draw what you see (practise it a lot - I guess it's ideal because we all can tell if the nude model on our drawing page has tiny legs in compairison or would fall off the page..)
I think I was comfortable because it is a very accepted use of nudity in a clear setting. So I did lots of yoga-like poses, where I felt comfortable with sustaining them longer. Today I procrastinated masturbating in front of a mirror.
I also did a pose I had done yesterday and was astonished of "how much" showed yet "how little" I saw of it in the sketches. .. My clitorial hood was very well visible, yet in one drawing I really liked, there was just one line - so the whole thing looked like a huge slit; where I would have loved to place at least a hint at my clit. 

I wonder if this is conditioning? Are we so used to see slits instead of clits, that we fail to draw them?

Are men more prone to do so? (As the "cool function" of our sex organ is the slit the can put their cocks in..)

Or are we all seeing only a slit, where there should be more?

I have to check the drawings I did in a class a few years ago, I am quite sure I did not forget to depict the cock of the male models. I am guessing I did not depict the cunts at all.

Also, do you think female models posing nude choose (voluntarily or by accident) positions where their sex organs are not that visible? (leg tilted a bit in front when standing, legs crossed, etc.)

If so, is that because they are ashamed, or because they "want" to pose sexy?

And what does it say about us, that hiding something makes it more precious?

Most models like to see what

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:33

Most models like to see what everyones done at the end and I think it's just propriety that stops people drawing a vulva in detail or at all. I would think as propriety changes and vulvas are valued with sculptures like the great wall of vagina then people will feel OK drawing vulvas knowing the model is OK with seeing their depiction of their vulva. 

In retrospect, I maybe should

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:07

In retrospect, I maybe should have posted in "rant".
Like the wall, though I don't like the time that much, but it's a start.

I don't know what you mean

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:47

I don't know what you mean when you say you don't like the time.