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Lately I've been struggling with monogomy. Is it wrong to want a mistress? In an ideal world, I'd have my cake and eat it, too. I'd love to have a wife AND a mistress. Am I the only lesbian in the world that feels this way? Would it be cheatng, or can people ever *really* have open relationships?

I don't know if you can have
I don't know if you can have an open relationship because I don't know your wife. And I'm sure neither of you know if you're ready for an open relationship unless you talk about it openly. You shouldn't feel guilty. Men and women of every sexual orientation feel this way - trust me, I've been a mistress for both sexes. An open relationship is what the two of you make of it. Consider it as a test to determine if this woman you're with is right for you. It's a big decision that many people rush into, or they say it "just happens". It doesn't. It happened because you wanted it to. What you didn't want is to hurt the one you love. Therein lies the perplexities of marriage - it cannot rule the heart or the body. If you want to explore your sexuality, then put the wifely responsibilities aside and speak to your partner from the heart. If she can't accept that, then you may have to do it in secret (if you have children, anyway. If not, then you should consider separation). Don't become someone who must repress. You don't have to, not for anyone.
I will say this. Secrets aren't horrible if you're prepared to eventually get caught.
"Illusion is the first of all pleasures" - Oscar Wilde
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Only you can decide
Only you can decide if it is wrong to have/want a mistress as you can see from the above comments there are many opinions. Only your opinion matters as you will have to live with the consequences.
Perhaps before deciding you should take an emotional self-inventory. Are you trying to fill a void or are you just looking to have some interesting fun.
I personally would say the ideal would be to be open with your spouse and have no secrets. However most (like mine) don't like to share and think that having another lover is a failing on the relationship, themselves or the spouse. I don't see it as such. There are things that I like to do that my wife does not sexually and recreation/ entertainment wise. If I were able to satisfy those needs, so long as they are not harmful or putting her at risk, then what is the issue? I really wish we did not have to keep getting hammered with the old monogamy dogma.
So the answer for me is that given the right person I would have a mistress and I see nothing wrong with it- for me.
We grow by being with other people and sharing ourselves.
Is it wrong to want a
Is it wrong to want a mistress? I don't think wanting anything is wrong. Is it wrong to have a mistess? Well, that's basically asking, is it wrong to lie to and violate the trust of someone you love and to whom you've made a committment? Do you really not know the answer to that question? If you don't want to be monogomous, then don't make a committment to be monogomous.
On the other hand, as someone who has tried in the past to be in non-monogomous relationships, let me tell you that this is really, really difficult. Looking back, I'd say that it's not worth it. But there's certainly nothing unethical about it, as long as everyone agrees and you can make it work. I just don't think that most people can.
Why bother
Why bother being married if you want to step outside of the relationship? I totally don't agree with anyone here! A marriage is supposed to be between two people. I've been married for 15 years and still feel the love when we make love. But hey, whatever floats your boat!
one for sex, one for love
There's something I don't like about that "a wife that I love, a mistress I desire" attitude is that it implies that you can't love who you fuck and/or can't fuck who you love. One is a body and the other is a mind, neither is a complete human being. It's like a madonna/whore complex (the same can be said about men, too) but knowing that we can have sex with someone shouldn't make that person less desirable or "fuckable".
the problem is that it's so
the problem is that it's so hard to find quality people who are open to a poly relationship. Most are a bit too spiritual for me and not that attractive.
How does one step up from solo-sex to sex with a partner.
Granted! solo-sex can be excitng, but I don't know how to connect with a partner because of it....I can only fantacize about the touch and feel of another's body and that, to me is even more exciting...... ....The REAL BODY Touch and feel.... Since you can communicate your sex feelings with another......But, for me it has been 25 years since I was married and I don't care to go back to that....Yet, someone of a permanent Lover would be more desirable........Does anyone have any ideas or TIPS on how to sexually connect......I'm retired at 67 and prefer women.....RCM.........ralphcm41@att.net
Mistress
It is not wrong to want a mistress. My mistress stayed with me for thirty-seven years until she died. I miss her terribly. I married my wife for her brain and my mistress gave me the body. I was lucky to have found them. Now my life is half over. Depressing.
Not at all
"Is it wrong to want a mistress?" -- Not at all. One of the fallacies we are socialized to accept as truth is that one person can be all things to another. We find people attractive before we enter a committed relationship, and we will find people attractive afterwards. It is unlikely that a single parnter can meet all of one's sexual desires all the time. But more than that, it is about energy. Dyad relationships are often closed systems. The couple gets wrapped up in each other during the NRE (new relationship energy) phase, usually to the exclusion of other people. Which can temporarily heighten that NRE high, but inevitably leads to an energy crash as the novelty wears off and there are no external sources of energy/stimulus to recharge. This is why serial monogamy occurs. It is a cycle of NRE high, crash, recharge, repeat. Which is a shame, because, usually, what we love about people doesn't change, even if the qualities of the relationships do. Why should a relationship that works in 90% of the areas of your life end? Negotiate sexual variety with your partner. If you are both aware of what is going on, its not cheating. And when both partners are part of the process, the extra-marital sex tends to be less risky, both with regards to STDs and emotional health.
I couldn't agree more with
I couldn't agree more with silkenvoice and the NRE. i have been committed for 22years to the same woman who i love more than anything. i do however have the urge to see other women and my wife to see other men. we have discussed opening our marriage, but the concern is will it be the downfall of a beautiful relationship. because inevitably our human frailties will emerge ( jealosy,self worth,what's wrong with me,why does he/she want them and not me). this list is tremendous. polyamory i think is a great philosophy and it makes great sense from the point no one person can be everything to another. but i think that it only really works a small percentage of the time. i believe that most open relationships and polyamorous ones fail because our society teaches us the monogamous relationship too young and that's the only view presented.
re: is it wrong?
What's right or wrong depends on many things. What culture you're a part of, what religion, and whether or not you're French. ;) Isn't for those outside your culture or faith to tell you what's right or wrong as those determinations will be coming from those sorts of traditions. That said, if you're married and part of the marriage was the understanding or expectation of monogamy, then sure it's wrong. Though even if were, but you're swingers or otherwise 'open' with your relationship then it may be perfectly acceptable. Though generally, if it's a 'mistress' as such, it kinda implies infidelity.
I personally don't think monogamy is entirely natural for human beings. Think the assumption that it is, or is expected comes from human created things like religion and cultural values. But biologically, I think we're inclined to just fuck our brains out as often as possible. And those that don't are clinging to constructed value systems for any number of reasons.
That said, I myself have always been monogamous during relationships as it's simply my default behaviour. It's never occured to me to pursue another relationship when already in one other than during masturbatory fantasies. Think that I do fantasize about being the prolithic swinger with endless partners but don't act on it is a good example of culture and religion overpowering more animalistic drives and urges.
In conclusion, what's right or wrong has more to do with you than anyone else. That you even ask the question suggest you believe it's wrong. So attack it thus.
Shalom.
I'd much rather be happy than right any day.
the problem is that it's so
the problem is that it's so hard to find quality people who are open to a poly relationship. Most are a bit too spiritual for me and not that attractive.
Wouldn't it be great to have a primary relationship with someone that you respect, love blah blah blah and then have a secondary relationship with someone who gets you incredibly hot? That's my ideal.
I want a solid roommate who likes to dine, talk politics, entertain, and travel and a paramour who likes to fuck and party.
I whole-heartedly agree,
I whole-heartedly agree, it's very hard to find.